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Contracts, Trusts & the corporation sole; what they are & how they relate with one another.

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Social Security Card

Postby Playitcool » Friday March 26th, 2010 11:33 am MDT

If one never signed their Social Security Card, is their relationship with Corp U.S. a valid contractually bound trust agreement?

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Re: Social Security Card

Postby Copacetic » Friday March 26th, 2010 11:49 pm MDT

First, the Social Security card belongs to the Social Security Administration.

Second, contractual agreements are defined by the action of the parties, not the action of applying ink to paper.

Therefore, the answer to you question is, it depends on if the trust has been accepted and active in any way.

Using the trust and its ID number to hold the card, aquire property, or start bank accounts etc. all constitute signature acts, which bind the parties to the agreement by thier actions. Signing or not signing the card is irrelevant merely another evidence of the signature act required to activate the card; and, any signature act will do regardless of the signed ink trail on the card.

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Re: Social Security Card

Postby Scooter » Sunday March 28th, 2010 12:46 am MDT

Since 18 is the legally binding age for contracts, are children still liable when they reach 18 for documents their number may have been attatched to before reaching 18? Thank You

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Re: Social Security Card

Postby Admin » Monday March 29th, 2010 9:47 am MDT

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Ok; so, again we remind everyone that according to law, the social security number never automatically attaches to people. If you are not familiar with the way the social security system works. It will be necessary for you to study the relationship by following the Standard for Review; which means you will have to actually review both the law that provided for the formation of the relationship and the actions that actually formed the relationship. Accordingly, you may want to review Myth 22.

Regarding the age of legal accountability issue and contracts: the question you asked addresses not just the social security card holding relationship but any such relationship so entered. When a legally incompetent person is allowed, by their parents or guardians, to participate in such a relationship, the relationship is, in effect, bound by the authority of the parent or guardian.

Accordingly, when the dependent party acquires legal accountability, they must either confirm their consent by continuing to act in accord with that agreement or contest the same under their new responsibility to their legal accountability. The moment of their becoming legally accountable timely makes this requirement because, at that moment they are assumed to know the nature of their agreements (all of them) and of the inherent nature of their consent to them if they do not timely, and properly, contest the same. Absent such a timely made proper contest their tacit consent will be binding.

Through all of that, you must remember the nature of the agreement with the Social Security Administration does not change. Prior to their offer, they reserved the permanent ownership of the card to the Corp. U.S. and they reserved the right to terminate the relationship at any time; thus, the nature of the agreement can only define an agency trust. The law, their practice and publications all show the card and the name and number on the card all belong only to them. However, the name and Taxpayer Identification Number on the card identify the taxpayer. The signature acts related to that name and number signify verification of the cards acceptance in trust and respective activation of both the card and the taxpayer.

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Re: Social Security Card

Postby Playitcool » Tuesday March 30th, 2010 1:08 pm MDT

I was also wondering where I would find Social Security Administration publications, preferably online. Specifically, I'm trying to find the publication that states "the Social Security number uniquely distinguishes the taxpayer from people" as quoted on "The Seduction" page located on Team Law's site. I understand that posting of offsite links is prohibited, but any help would be appreciated in pointing me in the right direction.

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Re: Social Security Card

Postby Admin » Tuesday March 30th, 2010 1:53 pm MDT

:h: Playitcool:
Though, as you noted, from time to time, we may refer to such quotes, their effect in law is slight. Accordingly, we refer to such instrument due to their interesting nature; rather than as proof of facts. When proving the facts, it is best to focus on:
  1. The actual facts of the relationship’s formation;
  2. The facts and laws related to the creation and registration of the name and Taxpayer Identification Number; and,
  3. The regulations that control their activities in so doing.
Their ancillary publications and or employee comments cannot change any of those facts; regardless of any other consideration. Thus, those facts and laws set the nature of the relationship regardless of any other person’s or body politics’ contradictory opinion.

Thus, though we possess such publications that make statements like the one you quoted, the publications we have are in hard print and we are not aware of their availability on the internet. If we were aware of such, we would not misplace too much value on them due to their lack of ability to affect the law itself.

On the other hand, we expect there may be some such online resources and if you find them (as noted above), they are interesting to take note of and read; thus, you may take note of the same and send references to them in private messages to Admin. Accordingly, we can review the links and potentially authorize them for publication in the forum (due to that interest factor).

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Re: Social Security Card

Postby Jumonjii » Thursday February 24th, 2011 4:05 pm MST

I'm curious about this too. I researched their site, and went to the local SSA office in my area and got copies of all the forms available. Nothing says this.

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Re: Social Security Card

Postby Admin » Friday February 25th, 2011 1:34 am MST

:h: Jumonjii:
As we last noted, we possess the hard copy documents that make such statements. Those documents include SSA marketing publications that go back to the SSA’s origin (1935). Such publications are not generally available today; especially since the advent of Homeland Security and their advice to businesses to use the number to identify a taxpayer’s “legal presence”.

Again, such publications are not necessary to identify the nature of the relationship created by SSA when they reserve ownership of the social security card and accordingly offer the opportunity to hold the same in trust. That act alone proves the nature of the relationship in law. Nothing can change that factual event. That event proves their creation of a trust; and, obviously that trust cannot be you. Though, you can voluntarily form a general partnership with such a trust and so become equally, collectively and severally liable for the obligations of your partner—that trust.

Of course, that is the danger of ignorance, isn’t it.

To delve further into this matter would require Team Law beneficiary support; therefore, to continue on this thread, we would have to continue the topical thread in the Beneficiary’s Private Forum.

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