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Most optimistic scenario.

Postby FreeManOnLand » Tuesday February 10th, 2009 1:57 pm MST

My question is directly to admin regarding the reseating of the O.J. Government of the united States republic. In the most optimistic time frame,scenario, what is the quickest chain of events for the O.J. Government to be reseated and a President elected?

Currently posted at the Governor's corner are five states without representation. North Dakota and New Hampshire are both completely untouched with not even a landowner. Kanasas and Indiana both have Governor candidates and hopefully most likely will be seated by the next election cycle. New Jersey currently has a landowner (yay for my home state!) and hopefully will have a Governor Candidate by next election.

From my understanding the Senate will be appointed by the Governor's once they are all properly seated. Luckily this shouldn't take to much time and energy as no elections need to occur; I'm assuming the process is less time consuming than elections. From my limited understanding from this point forward is that the seated Senate will elect a President of the united State of America, or at least nominate one.

In the best case scenario what is the least amount of time that is needed assuming that all elections seat all positions successfully and the O.J. President is elected? Time frames? Milestones? and critical points?

I hope admin has time to answer such a question, I feel that a lot of new comers and veterans alike would be interested in the answers provided.

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Re: Most optimistic scenario.

Postby Admin » Tuesday February 10th, 2009 6:47 pm MST

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A point of order: Questions directed to Admin should be sent as private messages. Otherwise, all messages posted to the Open Forum are open for response to any registered user. The nature of your inquiry is a general one and we find no reason that anyone able to answer it could have; in fact, it helps us when all participants do their best to provide reasonable answers. Even taking a stab at the answer and getting it wrong can provide the best way to discover more of the truth.

The obvious answer to your first question is the next Presidential election, which is 2012. That is the next time the law provides for the seating of the Electoral College. Thus the chain of events necessary between now and then is:
  1. Continue in the process of electing and seating every State Governor. This is an ongoing process and we have been working on it for over 12 years already. The last election put us in view of the end game. We now have 43 states that have seated original jurisdiction governors since 1968. Now we have to keep those seats elected and before the Presidential election in 2012, they must all be seated. To do that the people of each State must:
    1. If your original jurisdiction State has already elected your Governor, continue to build more support and participate in the upcoming original jurisdiction gubernatorial election in your State. Every State will hold another election before the next Presidential election. We must maintain the seats we have already won.
    2. If you are from one of the five states that have not elected your original jurisdiction Governor, you have to get one into office in the next election.
    3. We must have all of the Governor’s seated by the time the Electoral College meets to vote for the original jurisdiction President of the United States of America.
  2. The next task up is to seat the Electoral College. That means that in the next four years we need to make the people of each State aware of the necessity to secure their landownership. Though some may argue that their State does not require landowners as electors, we give that no consideration in our push to seat the Electoral College because if every Elector that comes to the Electoral College in 2012 is a landowner with Title (land patent) to that Land secured for the restoration of each State’s Great Book, then it will be a certainty that that Elector is a qualified Elector by any standard of review.
  3. When we get near to the time of the Election we will need each State Governor to appoint two Senators to represent their State in the original jurisdiction United States of America Senate
  4. Right after the popular vote Presidential Election takes place in November (2012?), the Electors of each congressional district in each State need to meet in their local Electoral Caucus meeting, which is where each Elector casts their vote for the original jurisdiction President of the United States of America; they also choose their Delegated Elector and send their Delegated Elector to the Electoral College whereever it is designated to be held.
  5. The Senate attends the Electoral College to observe the election process; so, it can confirm the election was held properly.
  6. IF any contests are to be raised against the Electoral College's election, they must be raised in a timely manner so that they can be considered before the Senate when it is called into session on December 15; the President of the Senate will call the Senate into session and the election results and any contest are reviewed.
  7. If the Senate confirms the election, the original jurisdiction President of the United States of America will have been successfully elected.
  8. On the proper day in next following January, the President elect takes the oath of office and is seated by the proper lawful authority in accord with the laws of our Constitutional Republic.
We hear questions like yours often and rarely go through the whole thing even laying it out at this level because we are of the belief that this in a matter that should be common knowledge for us all.

You see, we do not make up this information; rather, it is purely constitutional; accordingly, you should already recognize this as the pattern the law prescribes. Thus, we must follow this pattern or risk Civil War.

We are actually glad you asked this question at this time because of all of the ignorant people and organizations pushing for Constitutional Conventions and or Continental Congresses. Some of them allege that our Constitution does not work anymore; but, they only say that because they have never lived at a time when they were not controlled by their own ignorance of the law and the contractual relations they have formed with Corp. U.S. and the Corp. States; and accordingly, they do not understand how our Constitution can save our country now—it can but we have to learn it, reseat our original jurisdiction government and then use it to return control over Corp. U.S. and the Corp. States. That is the only way to return stability and strength to our economy without suffering through a time when there will be no food on the tables and the toilets won’t flush!

There are those that are attempting to romance people from the work and restoration we have accomplished in reseating the original jurisdiction government. They are alleging the they are “reseating the government from the county level”; but they are alleging that they are doing that in accord with the Articles of Confederation. What a joke that one is. These guys would have you believe that they can arbitrarily appoint Postmasters and that those Postmasters can confirm elections of the governors regardless of the fact that the people filling those arbitrary seats are not from the States they are allegedly appointing those governors in. When they are asked where they get the authority to do that they give a ridiculous story that ends with the allegation that if they write it in their family Bible it becomes scripture! That is so bogus. Even if their ridiculous allegations were true that would neither fix the primary problems with the Articles of Confederation nor would it have the power to restore them into any lawful effect. The Articles of Confederation properly died with its abandonment and our Constitutional Republic began with the legal and lawful setting of the Constitutions both of the states of the Union and for the United States of America. If that were not so the Articles of Confederation were only agreed upon with the original 13 states each of which abandoned the Articles of Confederation and formed a new State Constitution supporting the Constitution of the United States of America. Again these people are simply stuck in the effect of believing they must do something quickly, even if it is wrong.

We have been after the people to awaken their neighbors and do something to help secure the gubernatorial elections and reseat the government for over 12 years. Now we are getting close. If all of those people focusing so much energy and funding on doing something else would put that energy and funding behind getting the job done right Obama would have never taken office as he did. We would already have the original jurisdiction government back in place and we would be using real money in a stable economy right now!

The fact that we are not done yet simply means that we have more work to do. When will we be done? When we have our government back. We welcome your support.

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Re: Most optimistic scenario.

Postby FreeManOnLand » Tuesday May 12th, 2009 1:55 pm MDT

Thank you admin for your response, very well written indeed.
My next question builds on the previous explanation.

Now, because of all of the ramifications of the meddling of Corp. US. in today's infrastructure, economy, and open and apparent collusion with globalist forces, is there any sort of prevision or scenario which will allow special elections to take place which can speed up the process that the O.J. Government can be reseated?

A little birdy told me something was in the works; Being a Sovereign under god I felt it prudent to go to what I feel is a reliable source of information and ask the question directly. I look forward to your response; Thank you. :)

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Re: Most optimistic scenario.

Postby Admin » Tuesday May 12th, 2009 9:43 pm MDT

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Though many people today are beating the drums for things like “Continental Congresses” and “Constitutional Conventions”; such things are purposed around animating the people into a frenzy that can only lead to Civil War. Accordingly, following any other path other than the one already provided in the Law for elections will have a negative effect.

No matter what path anyone takes the only way to lawfully hold a Presidential election in this country is through the Electoral College. The people must realize the thing that they watch on TV during Corp. U.S'. presidential elections is not how electoral votes are cast (our above description of the Electoral Caucus meetings held in each congressional district describes the process provided in the law). Contrary to the media spin on Corp. U.S'. popular vote system for allegedly delegating electoral votes, the Electoral College is a very good thing, in that it secures the election original jurisdiction’s Electoral Vote is all done live counted in front of everyone and immediately disclosed with no chance for fraud or deceit anywhere in the process of the election. That is certainly not available to the people in popular elections where the vote is only recorded by a computer that can be programmed to give any result the programmer’s desire. We will not go into that with this response; nonetheless, it is a very good thing and our Constitution’s Electoral College process insures a proper lawful election by the voice of the People/the electors without any possibility for tainting the election with computers preprogrammed with an outcome.

Because the chain of succession for our Constitutional Republic’s original jurisdiction President of the United States of America is nearly infallible, the only time such an election can occur is at the times set certain for an election (on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November on the fourth year anniversary of the last presidential election). The next opportunity for such an election will be in 2012; and it will take at least from now until the election in 2012 to prepare the people for such an election (and that is only if all that know about it help awaken their neighbors). So, there are only two ways to lawfully seat the original jurisdiction President of the United States of America:
  1. The timely seated Electoral College; or,
  2. The chain of succession of said President.
      The constitutionally provided chain of succession is:
      1. If the President is removed from office in term the Vice President becomes the new President; and, the President Pro Tempore of the Senate becomes the new Vice President; then, the Senate elects from themselves a new President Pro Tempore; finally, the affected State replaces the Senator that replaced the Vice President.
      2. If the Vice President is removed from office in term the President Pro Tempore of the Senate becomes the new Vice President; then, the Senate elects from themselves a new President Pro Tempore; finally, the affected State replaces the Senator that replaced the Vice President.
      3. If the President and the Vice President are both simultaneously removed from office in term the Vice President becomes the new President; and, the President Pro Tempore of the Senate becomes the new Vice President who then replaces the vacant President’s seat; and; then, the Senate elects from themselves a new President Pro Tempore who becomes the new Vice President; accordingly the Senate elects from themselves a new President Pro Tempore; and finally, the affected States replace the vacant Senate seats.
      4. Finally, if something happened to remove the President, Vice President and all of the Senate at the same time, then the State Governors can replace their Senators and the Senate can lawfully reseat the Executive branch as already designated above.
Of course, that is exactly why Team Law has so diligently been working to help the people learn the law and respectively lawfully reseat the original jurisdiction gubernatorial seats. And, yes with enough financial support to notify all of the people, in any given State, that their original jurisdiction Governor’s seat is vacant then a special election can be held to reseat that office. However, the cost of doing that is generally prohibitavely expensive.

Respectfully, though we have already followed that process to reseat an original jurisdiction President Pro Tempore in the Senate; because Corp. U.S. was organically created by the original jurisdiction government and was lawfully charged with the responsibility of taking care of the government’s business needs—which it continues to do—and where the people have almost all accepted the contractual responsibility for managing agency taxpayer’s affairs for Corp. U.S., there is no point in that President officially taking on the full capacity of the original jurisdiction President of the United States of America until all of the State governors are in place (to reseat Congress) and the electors (people) are fully aware and supporting the reseating process. The primary problem with jumping in too soon (before all of the necessary seats are lawfully filled and we are officially ready to hold a timely Electoral College election) is the threat civil war—which Corp. U.S. is doing its best to foment. The bottom line, we cannot allow such a war—instead we must awaken the people to the necessity of learning the law and applying it to reseat our original jurisdiction government.

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Re: Most optimistic scenario.

Postby Victor » Sunday May 17th, 2009 3:20 pm MDT

Dear Admin,
As I am sure most of us would love to see the Original Jurisdiction Government reastablished in our county, are there any ideas on how to facilitate this? All of us should be very concerned about the issue, but as was mentioned in the earlier post, four states currently do not have governors in place. Being from Texas, I don't know anyone living within any of these four states that I might urge, but I am willing to try some things to help "beat the bushes". Some of these states' govenor elections occur next year (2010), so time may be shorter than what may be realized.

Does anyone have any ideas on how we can promote the OJ Government to others in those states? What has Team Law done in the past that has been successful, and can we repeat it? I'm sure others or willing to do the work, but perhaps we need some guidance on what would be the best means of promoting it.

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Re: Most optimistic scenario.

Postby Admin » Monday May 18th, 2009 10:32 am MDT

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We have been most successful with: live trainings on tour with groups of people local people put together, advertise and hold; and, with live radio and television interviews people request from their local stations. Such events are arranged by people talking to other people about the things we are doing. And, such conversations best stem from conversations people are already involved in. For example: when you are in a conversation where the others grumbling about something like how terrible (or whatever) President Obama (or whomever) is or what they’ve done with government, the economy, healthcare, etc., that’s a perfect opportunity to let them know you are doing something about it, and tell them about Team Law and what we have accomplished. In such situations it is always best to be brief; not answering all of their potential questions—rather, referring them to a particular page (or topic) on the website and let them discover on their own. When you follow-up with them later you can discover what they learned and even start working on having a live local meeting. If they aren’t really interested you can ask them if they know anyone that might be willing to get involved to help save our Constitutional Republic to preserve our nation.

Along with that, there was a presupposition in your inquiry that we need to address; that being, the presupposition that we have to “reestablish” the original jurisdiction government; which is not only incorrect—it is impossible! We cannot reestablish that which already exists—we have to simply learn the law and apply it. That is exactly why Team Law’s primary function is to help people learn how to learn the law.

You will discover the elements necessary for understanding a review of that presupposition by following the Standard for Review; thus, we suggest fully following such a review right up through the formation of the original jurisdiction State government under the original jurisdiction Constitutional Republic government formed by the Constitution for the United States of America (see Myth 19). With that foundation, we address the presupposition as follows:
To define the word: “Establish” in Webster Dictionary (online), Webster wrote:Establish
  1. To make stable or firm; to fix immovably or firmly; to set (a thing) in a place and make it stable there; to settle; to confirm.
  2. To appoint or constitute for permanence, as officers, laws, regulations, etc.; to enact; to ordain.
  3. To originate and secure the permanent existence of; to found; to institute; to create and regulate; — said of a colony, a state, or other institutions.
  4. To secure public recognition in favor of; to prove and cause to be accepted as true; as, to establish a fact, usage, principle, opinion, doctrine, etc.
  5. To set up in business; to place advantageously in a fixed condition; - used reflexively; as, he established himself in a place; the enemy established themselves in the citadel.

From this list of definitions we can see a common thread. The word indicates the original and permanent setting of the thing; this is especially true with the third definition, which applies specifically when considering the formation of a government such as each of our respective State and Federal governments. The second definition applies both to a constitution’s providing for the offices in government as well as the process of passing laws, regulations etc.

Respectively, we note that both our original jurisdiction State and Federal governments have already been originally and permanently established. Thus, the problem we face today is: the individual people’s ignorance of the law limits them from knowing how to use or retain that which already exists; because they do not know the law; and respectively, cannot apply it.

To understand the scope of this problem you have to understand what Sovereignty is; thus, if you have not read Team Law’s article on (Sovereignty, you need to stop now! And, go read “Sovereignty”!

You see, in our Constitutional Republic form of government, the government is forbidden from owning land except for a very limited quantity (which the constitution allows only for specifically named purposes); the rest of the landmass that forms our nation is either held by the government for the people (until the people lawfully acquire the same) or it is privately owned by the landowners (which include: people, business entities (specifically named as landowners in an Act of Congress) and/or each of their respective heirs or assigns). Thus, because most of the land in our nation is exclusively privately owned, the sovereign domain of our nation is limited to the control of those individual sovereign landowners. Wherefore, when in our Constitution, the privilege of authority, necessary for the nation to act as a sovereign nation among nations, is granted to the government through the Chief Executive (President) that authority comes from the collective sovereignty of the individually sovereign landowners. Also, it has been well ruled that sovereignty is a political power and the political power cannot be passed by contract (see: Osborne vs Bank of the United States). Therefore, though the President of the United States of America retains the constitutionally provided collective authority to speak for the sovereign people of this nation (in accord with the limitation of power granted by and through the Constitution), the sovereign authority itself remains only with the people—the President is not a sovereign ruler and neither he nor the government own the land. Thus, for the President of the United States of America to seat in that office with the collective sovereign authority [that rests only within the individual landowners (due to their respective dominion)], he must have first received that authority from those specific Electors (landowners) through their election in the Electoral College. Thus, when so elected, the President of the United States of America, as its Chief Executive, executes the “sovereign authority of our nation”, we must remember that the authority so provided to him is limited to the limited portion of collective sovereignty the people have authorized him to use through the Constitution. Therefore, the responsibility for controlling that exercise remains with the people. The problem with all of that today is the ignorance of the people. If you do not know the law, you cannot apply it. Wherefore, the remedy to that limitation is self-education in the law and history of our nation.

Nonetheless, our biggest enemy in the process of restoring our Constitutional Republic is the fact that in our time, due to social networks and the internet, people think that they are studying the law when in fact they are merely reading third party articles and venting; most of which resolves to mere claptrap that directs the reader to a false impression of both law and history. This is exactly why we consistently refer people to firsthand study of the law from its source—the law itself, with its history, from its foundation. Accordingly, third party review of the same will not accomplish the task and more often than not directs the people to a position of hopelessness that hardens them as an ignorant advocate of war.

We must therefore recognize this problem drives the fickle mind of the body politic—the common people. That is to say, the availability of third party opinions about the law combined with the availability of venting resources like Facebook, Twitter and the like, combine to foment the people into a mindless angry horde into actions not warranted by the facts. Of course, the most salient fact is that virtually none of those angry masses know, or have learned, anything about the law itself—wherefore, they have never actually attempted to apply it as a remedy.

Thus, if we, who understand these necessities, do not awaken to the necessities of our time [which are: we must do much more to awaken our neighbors, etc.], we will doom ourselves to the outcome by our inactivity. At Team Law we have never been willing to sit back and watch such a thing happen. Instead, we provide our services; and, we recently expanded those services to include our Success Network; which service is free to anyone that wants to take advantage of it. And, as our Success Network grows we will soon be seeing people all over this country that are becoming more successful in every aspect of their lives, not the least of which will be their knowledge of the law and their ability to apply the same.

Thus, once you have awakened with a positive vision of the future, the first task is to awaken the people with whom you come in contact and help them catch the vision. Of course, that means they have to have a desire to think about the situation and that desire usually comes from recognition that something is wrong or must be done. The problem there is most people get that understanding from watching the media or surfing the web; neither of which provides the necessary foundation for any possibility of understanding the matter. “Recognition”, indicates to think again on a subject, which implies that we actually have to think on the matter. Wherefore, we must help them envision a positive future. As we help them become more successful and or discover the foundation for success it is easy to help them discover the law—even by directing them to specific pages on our websites (as noted above).

However, if those people have already been swayed by the foolhardiness of predatory marketers, agent provocateurs and or others promoting rebellion and or even restoring the original jurisdiction government, they will already be motivated towards something. With such people it is necessary to help them review their message clearly to discover that what they are promoting demonstrates they are not promoting learning and or following the law as it is already established. Instead, they will be inspiring rebellion. The bottom line: the only way to restore our original jurisdiction government will be to learn and follow the law. That is the only way to pass through this time with food on the table, utility services supporting our homes, fuel in our vehicles, funds in our accounts and hope for a better future. Our Success Network even helps people restore those things that have already begun to be sparse in that regard. We cannot look to government for those services because until we restore our original jurisdiction government, Corp. U.S. will most likely continue to follow the path towards civil war. We simply cannot allow that. We must rise above that.

We must recognize the facts of what our original jurisdiction government is and how it was first established and made permanent with its original foundation and setting. We can even direct those people to rediscover our Constitution starting with the Preamble of the Constitution for the United States of America (see: Myth 7). By understanding that foundation and setting, we can simply study our Constitution and laws to understand all we have to do is re-seat our original jurisdiction government’s vacant chief executive officers seats. Once that is done, we can quickly gain our nation back using the law. And, until we do that, we have not applied that which the law already provides—the remedy that has always been before us and that we have always been responsible to learn and apply.

We understand your inquiry asks, ‘how do we facilitate this?”
The answer is, to do all you can to “reestablish” your understanding of our original jurisdiction government and respectively of the mechanics behind seating the original jurisdiction Governor in your State. Beyond that, you can help anyone you know to reestablish their understanding of our original jurisdiction government.

Those tasks alone seem daunting to many people so they give up without doing anything. The reality is, it only takes one vote to win any election. Thus, considering the fact that the original jurisdiction government was already established (definition 3) and it has not been removed or lawfully replaced; any vote for an original jurisdiction governor will elect the chief executive of the State. The more votes the better but one will lawfully resolve that seemingly overwhelming task.

Next comes the necessity of seating the original jurisdiction President of the United States of America. To do that we have to accomplish two things:
  1. We have to timely seat the United States of America’s original jurisdiction Senate; so it can confirm an election of the President of the United States of America. That senate can be lawfully seated in two steps:
    1. Each original jurisdiction State elects a Governor; and,
    2. The Governor must then timely (within the two weeks before the Electoral College seats) appoint the Senators.
  2. Timely hold an Electoral College election of the President of the United States of America. Again, this is a two step process:
    1. Hold local (in each congressional district) Electoral Caucus elections in each State;
        Each such caucus both holds an actual election for President and elects their own delegated Elector to carry their vote to the Electoral College, where the Delegate will cast its vote live.
    2. Each State timely sends its delegated Electors to the Electoral College convention where the election is held.
When you ask the question, how do we facilitate this, beyond what we have provided here you have to realize that answer is only limited by your participation in the process. You need to participate in your local election of your State Governor. And, to do that you need to secure your landownership, which will establish your Elector Status. Then, you need to do all you can to awaken as many people in your State to the fact that the only way we can lawfully resolve the matters running amuck in (what appears to be) government is participate in the process of seating your local Electoral Caucus meetings.

Much like the gubernatorial elections, seating the caucus meetings seems a daunting task; and again, the caucus votes are carried by one vote—each Electoral Caucus across the State has the right to submit one Elector carrying one vote for the President to the Electoral College. The bottom line, the more votes the merrier; but, in law one vote will do.

Thus, to facilitate the necessary election we suggest you participate as we have shown here and in our other articles on the matter.

As for the gubernatorial elections this year in New Jersey and Virginia. The people in those States must be awakened to participate in those elections. Then it would be wise to get to work on discovering how many electoral votes each of those states have, what the geographical boundaries are for the caucuses that have the right to cast those votes and get your land records properly in order so you can fill your State’s Electoral Seats. IT should go without saying that needs to be done in each State.

So far as what Team Law has done in the past to help States find Electors for Governor, we have done all we have posted and when we did not know anyone in the State we have gone to the publicly available phone books and called numbers out of them randomly seeking candidates. The calls have been successful but they do not drive those candidates with any passion for getting the job done.

The best means for promoting such elections and seating of the Electoral College are anything you do that causes any action to the proper end. Our point is, what most people do is nothing—because they think the task is undaunting (so far beyond intimidating as to be impossible, thus, not worthy of any effort); thus, any action that leads to a vote for Governor, will assure that one is seated. Accordingly, any action that leads to seating an Elector in the Electoral College assures that local caucus will cast its vote for President.

Thus, as usual, your actions are up to you and almost any action that leads to a proper and timely vote will win the day. We say that merely because until we are ready to seat the Electoral College we simply have to make sure that we do all we can to get someone lawfully seated and retained in each State’s original jurisdiction Governor’s seat.

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Re: Most optimistic scenario.

Postby Ztuz » Sunday August 8th, 2010 6:55 am MDT

I have just been informed by the State of California that my Patented Land has been finally transfered into my name and recorded ( My Grand father recieved this Patent in 1961). I live in Wisconsin and as a Freeman in good standing I want to us my status as an Elector to help bring our country back from the brink. I don't know if my status as Elector is in in Wisconsin or California. Also I would like more information on how to further pursue my rights in this respect.
Any Info would be acted upon ASAP.
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Re: Most optimistic scenario.

Postby Admin » Sunday August 8th, 2010 8:57 am MDT

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By virtue of landownership a landowner has the right to vote for any matter relevant to the venue where their land is located. However, that is not the same thing as being a “registered voter” or participating in the Electoral College. In times past, when people went to the polls to participate in an election, they presented themselves and the workers there verified their electoral right by looking in “The Great Book”, which was a record of all landowners within the venue. If the name was listed then a ballot was provided. If they were not listed there the list of “Registered Voters” was checked.

In the Corp. State elections today the voter is simply checked against the list of registered voters.

As an Elector (landowner) your have electoral rights in any venue wherein you have landownership. Thus, if you have landownership in both Wisconsin and California, you have authority to participate in elections in both of those venues. Some imagine that as an opportunity to vote more than once in an election; however, that is never the case.

Whether a party owns more than one parcel of land in a venue, their electoral status is established only once within that venue.

Accordingly, in a presidential election where the delegated electors are selected by the electors from each venue at their venue specific local caucus meeting, even if an elector who owns land in both California and Wisconsin the venue for the presidential election us the entire nation; wherefore, that Elector would have to choose which Electoral Caucus they wanted to cast their electoral vote for President in and only that venue could select him as a delegated elector that could participate in the Electoral College.

Nonetheless, such an Elector would possess the lawful right to participate in both state’s gubernatorial elections.

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Re: Most optimistic scenario.

Postby Besum1 » Tuesday April 17th, 2012 9:22 am MDT

Once the original jurisdiction government is in place, what reason do we have to believe that Corp. U.S. will recognize its will and simply relinquish its power? Corp. U.S. will obviously have far greater inertia and resources than the newly elected original jurisdiction government. Could they not simply use propaganda en masse to mislabel the effort as domestic terrorism or the like?

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Re: Most optimistic scenario.

Postby Admin » Tuesday April 17th, 2012 1:31 pm MDT

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The laws are clear on the matter. Therefore, Law is the answer to your question. Corp. U.S. is by law owned and controlled by the original jurisdiction government; therefore, they have no choice but to follow the lawful orders of the original jurisdiction government (once it is properly, legally and lawfully seated. You have to remember that there is no competition or contest between Corp. U.S. and the original jurisdiction government—the people simply allowed the original jurisdiction government’s seats to remain vacant for so long that Corp. U.S. has run off course. That is exactly why we need to restore our original jurisdiction government to its proper place and restore constitutional control over Corp. U.S.

Beyond that, we can remain true to our faith, hope and charity; and, through those attributes expect the military will remain true to their word and honor their covenants to follow the law.

Of course, the basis for this ongoing work is the elemental necessity that stands behind each and every one of the people; which is our obligation to learn and apply the law. The source of all authority in the law is the individual people. The reason we have the problems we have in our country is the people have forgotten that sacred honor bound requirement. Thus, the remedy for those very problems is the people must repent and once again take up that responsibility to learn the law so that they can apply it to save our nation. Respectively, the scripture indicates that the time will come (in the not too distant future—‘the Millennium’) when Satan will be bound. That will only happen as the people turn their hearts back to their honor bound responsibilities to love, obey and serve God. Of course, elemental to that change of heart is the necessity the people have to learn His law; and, that requires us to learn man’s laws as well; because all of the authority in man’s laws comes from us. We are responsible to that end. To make it happen we have to take faith in the respective promises that have been made to us.

Accordingly, God did not put us in this predicament; we did. We did it through ignorance and the only way out is through our repenting of that. We must learn the law and help others to awaken to that very necessity. As the people do, rest assured, Corp. U.S. will follow.

The only power Corp. U.S. has is that which they acquire from the people. Thus, as the people learn the law and apply it that power too will follow the will of the people. Of course, that is an elemental necessity to holding lawful elections as dictated by the people through the laws of our Constitutional Republic.

When I met with the Joint Chiefs’ Adjutant, in the Pentagon, we discussed that very matter and he informed me that they (the Joint Chiefs with the military) will follow the law and the will of the people acting in accord with that law. That is an elemental part of the oath everyone that enters into military service for the United States of America has to take. Military service centers on that oath, patriotic honor and the responsibility to follow that chain of command.

Thus, the only reason for anyone to expect that Corp. U.S. will follow the law is we learn and apply it. As the people do that, there is nothing else Corp. U.S. can do. However, you may be imagining something different. If that is the case, then you have to ask yourself; where are you applying your faith? Are you actively following the Standard for Review to study the law itself from its source? If not, you need to realize that you are part of the problem. Thus, the solution to that matter is quite simple—Start now!

As you do, we can assure you that your faith in our country and in our government will grow; and, you will begin to see the possibility of our nation being restored.

The bottom line: what have you got to lose? If you don’t start learning the law, as suggested, you will continue to add to the problem. However, if you do start learning the law, that experience can only help you grow and progress.

Some people get the wrong idea about this whole process because they spend their time surfing the internet focused on doom, gloom and conspiracies; that practice will never do anything for anyone; though, it is a sure fire recipe for destroying faith, hope and charity while developing a bad attitude. On the other hand, exercising your will to actually apply yourself to study and learn the law firsthand from your own hands-on experience will have the tendency to develop faith, hope and charity.

Thus, though the answer to your inquiry is: “The Law”, the best reason for that answer is not the existence of the Law; rather, it is the fact that as people begin to change their lives by following the Standard for Review to learn the law they exercise hope, which increases their faith. The Standard for Review requires that we start by learning how man acquired his authority from God. From there we learn that God gave man commands to direct him as went forth. Thus, if we first accept and learn those commands then apply them they come with specific promises and responsibilities. As we follow that authority forward and see it used to form our government, we can see God’s hand in that too. Thus, as we learn and apply the law man formed in accord with that path, we find that as we apply that law we also serve our fellow man; and that very service can change our hearts such that we realize that service of our fellow man is an exercise of pure love (which is charity). Thus, as we learn and apply the law our faith continues to increase as does our desire to make our world a better place to live. Accordingly, regardless of what the future holds, we find ourselves feeling better and living better. Accordingly, though many may think of all of that as a bunch of religious or metaphysical claptrap, the reality is it will drive home the effect of the necessity that we all bear—we are required to know the law. It just so happen that as we learn and apply it, everything improves; and, ultimately, we accomplish the task.

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Re: Most optimistic scenario.

Postby Besum1 » Tuesday April 17th, 2012 2:11 pm MDT

My concern lies in that there are over 300 million people residing in the United States, of which, only a relative few are members of this board. Through my experience, I have little to no faith in other people. Further, I find the supposition of the existence and intervention of an anthropomorphic god as being fundamental to the success of macroscopic righteous efforts to be far more egregious than any legal or historical suppositions formed by institutional influence. I have no problem with an individual's faith in the supernatural or religion; but, there is absolutely no room for it in practical matters of business and science. That being said, I am all for altruism, self-improvement and the pursuit knowledge; my academic background is in Physics and I will continue to research History and Law to the extent that I am contemplating pursuing a law degree. I just want to make sure that (with respect to aligning with Team Law) I'm not tying my horse to a cart that relies on prayer for a spare rim when/if the wheels fall off.

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Re: Most optimistic scenario.

Postby Admin » Wednesday April 18th, 2012 12:32 pm MDT

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If we were ever concerned over how many people knew the law when we started our work, we would have never started working in the first place.

From the beginning, when people asked us: “How many people have done this?” Our answer has always been: “That is irrelevant; the fact that the people must individually learn the law and learn to apply it to save themselves and/or the nation remains. Thus, our work has always been focused on helping individual people learn how to personally start learning how to learn the law from their own firsthand experience of studying the law itself—then they need to apply it.” That alone will get the job done regardless of anyone’s personal religious beliefs.

Before internet services existed (with its availability to the masses) we had thousands of people working with Team Law. Though the internet provides a welcome quick way to help people learn about Team Law and our work, the fact that people see that our service requires them to actually do their own work can put off those that are looking for a quick fix; hoping to find a silver bullet cookie cutter where others will lead them down a path to their hoped for solution. However, such ignorance based, but hoped for, solutions will never provide the desired results. Again, the only way we can save our Constitutional Republic (and ourselves with it) is the people have to learn the law and apply it.

Thus, regardless of the number of people in the nation, the necessary solution remains the same—the people have to learn the law and apply it. And, that necessity is a very personal requirement—respectively; it starts with one person—every time. That means that each of us has to do it regardless of how many people are doing it when we start.

Because learning the law is such a personal matter (requiring self-education of the type Team Law provides), it is best accomplished and spread by one-on-one mentoring with a source like Team Law. The same thing goes for success. It too is a very personal matter that can only be personally developed; the skills for which development are most easily and best mentored through a one-on-one source with others of the same mindset. Again, that is exactly why we set up our Success Network. So lets take a look at what happens as we apply the services of our Success Network. The first few people that got involved contacted 20 people each; and, from each of those 20, five more people joined the network because they too are interested in being more successful and in spreading the word. As each of those people (that so get involved) catches the vision, they too contact twenty more people; and, so the network grows. Thus, after only a relatively few (12) repetitions of that cycle of direct contacts (from each of those people so involved) a small group of people can both expand their network to everyone in our country and reach out with to contact the entire world with our message of peace and prosperity. The time necessary for such an expansion can take as little as 6 months.

Another question we are often asked is: “How can we be sure this will work?” The problem with that question is, by itself there in no way to know what it means. The people that ask that question have some situation they are imagining—for which they are seeking a remedy; and, that is what is on their mind. However, we at Team Law help people learn how to learn the law, so they can learn how to apply it. Thus, to us that question means: “How can we be sure learning the law will work?” Respectively, the answer to that question is: if you follow the Standard for Review and study the law from its source, it always works; because that course of study always results in learning the law and learning the law is the first step necessary to learning how to apply the law. Finally, as they begin to apply the law they discover that application is the remedy they desired from the beginning.

It should be obvious that we appreciate the fact that you have little faith in other people. The beauty about what we do is, it has nothing to do with what other people do. Again, the elemental fact remains, each and every one of us is already required to know the law; even though, at the present time, very few people have a clue what the law actually is. However, as each one of us, one by one, begins the course of individual study of the law itself, from its source, the effect of that is quite incredible. Of course, that effect has a collective result that can be quite remarkable. In physics it’s called “The 100 monkey syndrome”; we’ll get back to that later.
For now, let’s review your comment, Besum1 wrote:I find the supposition of the existence and intervention of an anthropomorphic god as being fundamental to the success of macroscopic righteous efforts to be far more egregious than any legal or historical suppositions formed by institutional influence.
We agree. Though people may dispute the evidences of the existence and/or nature of God, if they presuppose their work requires interference from a god is a fundamental element to its success, such a presupposition would warrant a critical challenge. However, our work is based upon no such limitation. Further, whether anyone believes in God has no bearing on the propriety of our work.

Please understand; though a belief in the scripturally provided word of God provides hope, that belief, in and of itself, does not justify working with any less vigor to accomplish any desired end. That hope merely drives the believer’s efforts with greater passion. Knowing that, regardless of what others do, the fact that our efforts are focused on the correct principles gives cause to do the work necessary to accomplish the intended purpose; which purpose (on Team Law’s part) is: “To help people learn how to learn the law”; which learning is a necessary element both to: (a) control the authority that comes from each of us to government; and, (b) obey, honor, sustain, comply with and or enforce. Accordingly, that purpose is proper, necessary and will not change even if you are the only one that recognizes that necessity.

Nonetheless, we disagree with your allegation that an individual’s faith in God has nothing to do with the practical matters of either business or science. And, though this is not a forum for a debate on that matter, we will close that point with this observation from the science of physics: faith is scripturally defined as: “the substance of things hoped for; and, the evidence of things not seen.” In Physics that principle is described and written as: “Force with a vector” (ie. “F” with a little arrow over the F). Though in religions people use that word primarily as it relates to their “faith in god”, the principle is a fundamental element of the Laws of Physics. Specifically, that particular principle in Physics is described as: “Faith (ie. Force applied in a direction) is the only principle of power that exists anywhere to do anything.” Thus, if a party is motivated by their belief in God; that motivation will dramatically affect how they perform their business relations (usually enhancing the same).

Personally, as a scientist, I recognize the word “science” implies “the scientific method” as a means for doing research. And, though this in not a forum for discussing the effects of applying that method on researching evidence of the existence of God, it has been my personal experience that such evidence is overwhelming and if I were not already a believer, that pursuit would compel me to become one.

That said, Team Law’s work is based on the necessity for learning the law and the fact that the people’s ignorance of the law has caused them to fail to do what has always been necessary in our Constitutional Republic; that being: to control the government by limiting government to using only the authority the people lawfully provided. Respectively, the remedy to the problems our nation and its people face today is found in the law; through the resolve of the people to learn the law and apply. Absent that everything will simply continue to get worse.

There is and can be no cause for allowing individual religious beliefs to control government; however, government can be greatly affected by honest people that honorably serve as a result of their deeply held religious and spiritual beliefs. What we mean by that is: we do not care what anyone professes as their “religious belief” (or lack of the same); however, we do care that people so serve with honor to the laws of our land. Further, when people so serve with hope for a better future (regardless of whether that hope is aided by their belief in God), that service will increase their faith (Force with a vector) and when that service is applied to the honorable intent of serving others, the effect of that service will cause that servant to feel charity (love) for those that they serve. All mankind experience the chain reaction of that effect when any of us apply it; thus, our reference to “faith, hope and charity” in our previous response.

Finally, back to “The 100 monkey syndrome.”
While studying Physics in college we were shown a study of some Pacific Island monkeys where the scientists observed that monkeys eating sweet potatoes fresh from the ground winced as they ate. One of the scientists noticed that if they gave clean potatoes to the monkeys they did not wince; so, they tried an experiment and showed the monkeys how to take the sweet potato to the sea and wash of the bitter dirt before eating. At first there was no change then one of the monkeys mimicked the scientist and washed off the food before eating it. That monkey showed the trick to others and over time, more and more monkey learned to wash off their food before eating it. This was a new thing among monkeys not only on that island, but on a worldwide scale. Respectively, when something near 100 monkeys on that island began washing off their food before eating it virtually the entire population of monkeys on that island suddenly started washing off dirty food before eating it; but, it did not end there. As reports of that phenomenon on the island (when all monkeys on that island began washing off their food) scientists all over the planet noticed that monkeys all over the planet also adopted that same practice and the new behavior was observed to have started at virtually the same time as it happened on that island. Though, in the instant the worldwide phenomenon began, the exact number of monkeys on the island that adopted the practice of washing off their food before eating is not known, the phenomenon is now known as: “The 100 monkey syndrome.”

Interestingly enough the same phenomenon holds for virtually everything. For example: the science behind formulating new crystalline molecular structures (crystals) can be extremely expensive. However, though the pattern for a naturally non-existent crystal may be mathematically possible and may have incredible hoped for qualities (making such a crystal incredibly valuable) the “chemical soup” and environment necessary for the hoped for crystallization can be nearly impossible (and extremely expensive) to create. Nonetheless, once scientists finally discover how to generate the first such crystal and they are the only ones that have perfected the form; wherefore, it remains elusive to others even using the same formula and conditions. Then the 100 monkey syndrome begins to take its effect. It happens when (as such crystals are distributed around the world for their unique qualities) the volume of that particular crystal reaches a threshold when suddenly it become easy to duplicate and anyone using that formula worldwide will get the same result (at very little comparative cost). Thus, the more common the existent structure is on the planet, the easier it is to reproduce regardless of how difficult it was to generate the thing in the first instance.

We are referring to the 100 monkey syndrome here because you seemed to have taken offense to our reference to God when we described the effect of “faith, hope and charity” as a side effect of people learning and applying the law; given the comparatively small number of people that are already following that course of study and application.

The point we hoped to make, with regard to the desired result (a population of people that generally know the law and apply it), was that it does not matter how many people are learning the law and applying it today. The affect each and every individual one of us experiences, when we learn the law and can then properly apply it, is both cumulative and necessary. Individually, our lives are automatically enhanced by the increase in knowledge both as it effects of ability to apply the law and as our application of the law serves others. Thus, our hope to resolve the problem inspires the faith that causes our study and as we apply what we learn our lives improve. All of that is the individual effect; which, in and of itself, justifies the effort.

However, the collective effect then begins to accumulate as others follow that same path; and, when it comes to saving our nation, that is what it is all about. So, it makes no difference how many people know the law and can apply it right now. What does make a difference is, each and every one of those millions of people is already required to know the law; and, Corp. U.S. cannot contest that fact. Thus, as the people apply the law, Corp. U.S. cannot lawfully contest that application; and, that is why there is little Corp. U.S. can do about the people learning and applying the law. Thus, it remains important for each of the people to start learning. Our point is, we help people learn how easy it is to learn the law; especially with Team Law’s support.

Our point is also that having a mindset focused upon all of the obstacles that might limit us from accomplishing our righteous desires will never accomplish anything; it only slows us down. Thus, if we will apply our hope in a better future sufficiently that we exercise or faith sufficient to take the action of studying the law from its source firsthand following the Standard for Review, then we will begin to have the opportunity to improve not only our own lives, but the lives of all of the people around us. Of course, that kind of service for that purpose will give us both tangible rewards as well as intangible rewards. And, though we remain individually responsible for our actions, scriptures do promise that living in that manner makes us worthy of support from God aligned with our respective effort. They also warn that faith (in such things) without work is dead. Thus, though we believe in those promises and pray for them, rather than relying on prayer for a spare rim, we hope our righteous service and prayers will invoke the inspiration necessary to work faithfully and keep the rims all in working order. Regardless, of that hope, it remains necessary that we work (in line with law) as if it were all dependent upon our own individual effort. Still, our experience is, those promises are true and we find that, regardless of how hard the work and the course are, our path seems prepared as we continue on it. Wherefore, we count that as a blessing and work on.

Again, our course is certain; the necessity for the people to learn the law from their own firsthand experience of studying the law itself, from its source, remains a constant; and, that is Team Law’s purpose: “We help people learn how to learn the law; so, they can learn to apply it.”

We welcome all that are willing to join us and/or support us in that endeavor.

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Re: Most optimistic scenario.

Postby Tplane37 » Thursday November 8th, 2012 4:45 pm MST

As mentioned above in Admin's recent replies, all States (again, assuming 50) have now Elected an original jurisdiction Governor. I thank and congratulate all of those who have been involved in successfully reaching this mandatory milestone. Now comes a concern in which I would like clarification: It is my understanding of the Law that the Electors of each original jurisdiction State were permitted to Elect a minimum number of Representatives to send to the Nation's Capitol to represent them, this was documented by each of the individual State's "Enabling Act," which set forth the minimum number of Representatives for a given State, and said Act also provided mechanisms in which each individual State was authorized to send additional Representatives to represent the People, the increased number of Representatives usually being based conditionally on the number of Electors (or at that time, generally referred to as "citizens" or "population" in many cases).

The inquiries are:
  1. Does the number of Representatives sent to Washington D.C. for the Electoral College include one Representative and one Senator to be seated in the original jurisdiction Congress for each State? If so, said numbers (again, assuming 50 States), would provide only 50 Representatives in the House, which is HALF an appropriate number; it would also provide for an equal number in the Senate, which falls well short of the minimum number of Senators required to confirm the duly Elected original jurisdiction President. Therefore, would it not be wise to Elect the proper number of original jurisdiction Representatives and Senators to be seated in the already-existing seats of Congress in our Nation's capitol?
  2. How are the People to contact their original jurisdiction Governor's in their States for the purpose of playing an active and productive role in returning the original jurisdiction Elected of the future to their already-existing seats in the Constitutional Republic?
  3. Being that the Governor's are stated to be "appointing" Representatives to represent their respective States in Washington D.C. in the Electoral College, how then do we move forward in seating our original jurisdiction Congress? For without them, a President Elect is useless until his Elected status is confirmed and he is properly sworn in. Is there a reason why this mandatory step in the timeline was omitted from the above replies?

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Re: Most optimistic scenario.

Postby Admin » Monday November 12th, 2012 1:16 pm MST

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It seems like most of your inquiry would be most easily resolved by reading and understanding the Constitution for the United States of America. However, we will address the points of your inquiry in the same order you made them; as follows:
  1. We don’t understand the first numbered point of your inquiry; so, we will simply provide the basic elements provided for seating the Electoral College’s: The Electoral College is made up of the delegated electors sent from each state. The number of electors each state is allotted is determined as follows: each State gets one delegate (electoral vote) for each member of Congress and one for the State itself. Wherefore, each State is allowed one delegated Elector from each congressional district (respective to the State’s members in the House of Representatives) [each of whom are delegated by the electors present at each Electoral Caucus held within each congressional district within each State], two delegated electors respective of the State’s two Senators and one delegated Elector for the State itself (usually delegated by the Governor); however, the official governmental capacities of congressmen and governors preclude them from personally serving as delegated electors for their respective States.

    Your first point of inquiry had a second question tagged at the end of the point; which asked whether it would be wise to “Elect” the full body of Congress. The answer is not only “No”; but the concept is not even constitutional; because Senators are not “elected officials”; rather, the original jurisdiction Senators are only appointed to their offices by the State’s Senate or, in times when a seat is vacant, by the Governor. Further, though the number of delegated electors allowed to each State (in the Electoral College) is directly related to the number of congressmen allotted to each State, the Electoral College itself is not related to Congress at all; therefore, that point of your inquiry seems irrelevant.
  2. We suggest the information you seek regarding contacting your original jurisdiction State Governor can be found by going to our Governor’s Corner page, and selecting your State in the map at the bottom of that page.
  3. Again, we suggest that you read the Constitution; for it answers the questions you are asking. Respectively, the only Electoral College delegated Elector the Governor of each State is allowed to delegate is the one for the State. The electors the State is allowed for each member of Congress cannot be delegated by the Governor. Finally, we did not omit anything from the mandatory elements provided in the above reported timeline; however, due to your inquiry, we did go back and add a couple of comments to hopefully provide more clarity. Still, all of this is provided in the Constitution; which is why we consistently tell people they cannot learn the law from third party reviews—not ours and not anyone else’s. The only way to learn the law is by firsthand study of the law itself from its source. And, until the people do that following the Standard for Review, they will not have the capacity to actually apply the same.
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Re: Most optimistic scenario.

Postby Zane » Wednesday October 22nd, 2014 8:15 am MDT

No one, who hasn't read the Bible, can consider himself well educated. It is the beginning of law and gives to each of us the keys to eternal success.
"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children." (Hosea 4:6)


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