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Questions about Historical Outline

Postby Randonneur » Sunday August 23rd, 2009 3:34 pm MDT

Hello, I am new to this site and am just beginning to attempt to personally verify much of the information presented here. I have some questions though regarding the "Historical Outline" presented here.

First.....

Regarding the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871. My reading has shown that this act simply reorganized and consolidated power. The local charters and local government entities left intact by previous acts were eliminated. The municipal corporation established in 1801 was eliminated. Everything was absorbed into one new controlling body. I don't see the 1871 act establishing a separate private corporation, but rather a consolidation of all previous acts, charters, municipalites, counties etc. Any thoughts or insight on this is appreciated.

Second...

Regarding the annual National Governor's Conference of 1968, where it is claimed that IMF leaders discussed forming private corporations for the States.....the "Historical Outline" states this meeting took place in Lexington, Kentucky. I can find no meeting taking place in Lexington in the 50's, 60's, or 70's. There were two meetings in 1968. The first was Feb.28-March 1 held in Washington, DC. The second meeting was held July 21-24 in Cincinnati, OH.

Am I missing something here? Was a "secret" meeting held? Anyone know the name of the person or persons from the IMF or representing the IMF who supposedly addressed the Governor's regarding the private corp. issue?


These are just the first things I've noticed as I have begun researching......many thanks for any information you can provide.

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Re: Questions about Historical Outline

Postby Admin » Monday August 24th, 2009 11:53 am MDT

:h: Randonneur:
Though we appreciate the idea you expressed regarding the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871, that idea is simply not supported by the words of that act. Ideas regarding such matters have no bearing on the facts. The facts remain and those facts are:
  1. “Organic Act” means “First Act”;
    1. Thus, an organic act cannot be preceded by a prior Act for such a purpose; and,
    2. If an Act is the first Act, there was no prior Act doing the same thing;
    3. Therefore, an organic act cannot be used to “consolidate power” from previous acts or to “eliminate” the effect of the previous acts that formed the existent municipal corporation of the District of Columbia.
  2. The District of Columbia was already incorporated as a municipality by the original Acts of Congress that formed the District of Columbia.
  3. The Supreme Court verified the District of Columbia’s original municipal incorporation in several of its rulings.
  4. The language of the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 does not provide for the elimination of any existent municipal incorporation or local municipality nor does it provide for adjusting any of the same.
  5. The language of the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 provides for the creation of a “municipal corporation” as something new that had not before existed.
  6. Considering the fact that the District of Columbia had existed as a municipal corporation since 1801, it could not have been “organically” created in 1871.
  7. Since the first decade of the 1800’s there have been no recorded acts that remove modify or otherwise reorganize the original municipal organization of the District of Columbia.
  8. Given the fact that the original municipal corporation known as the “District of Columbia” has existed since 1801, the only meaning available for the term “municipal corporation”, as used in the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871, is a corporation owned (or otherwise controlled) by the existent municipality.
We appreciate the fact that there are those that are willing to imagine other meanings from the words of the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871, but those alternate meanings require you to presuppose things that are not written and simply cannot be so presupposed in the language of law.

Regarding the 1862 Governor’s Conference, those records are not available to us at this time (they are in storage) and other pressing matters keep us from being able to dig them out to better respond to your inquiry.

Personally, those matters are not critical to our understanding of where we stand at this time. Though they are critical matters regarding the history of our country, they are not elemental to anything people must do today to resolve our current situation. Thus, rather than digging into our stored records to find the details of those meetings we focus our attention on the reasons for looking into such matters. We did our original research regarding such matters following our Standard for Review pattern; knowing it is impossible to effectively understand the present (or plan our future) if we do not know our past. Still, in spite of that fact, let’s for a moment forget the facts of the Corp. U.S. formation (which easily explains why Corp. U.S. is doing what it is now) and instead consider the events of our history as if Corp. U.S. had never been formed. In fact, let’s imagine that you are right in your estimation of the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871. Then follow what we presented historically since 1878. To do that you might go to our presentation of Myth 22 and proceed from 1878 to the present. You will find that you come to the same conclusion of necessities as they relate to the current condition of the people in America. The Social Security system is still in place doing what it does (see Myth 22). The terroristic acts of September 11, 2001 still take place. The so called P.A.T.R.I.O.T. and Homeland Security Acts still unlawfully exist. And, the people remain just as ignorant of the law today as they have for decades—while their perception of their God given inherent rights continues to change from the false belief that they need (and can be required) to have licenses to: marry, own property, use property and operate businesses, to the acknowledgment that they must have a Social Security card or other form of national ID card to do virtually anything today.

Our point is, these things are self evident!
Thus, though anyone may question the meaning of the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 or the existence of a meeting of governors wherein they were challenged to find a means to incorporate the administration of their respective State governments, the facts that have followed are undeniable:
  1. Corp. U.S. went bankrupt in 1933.
  2. As a result of that bankruptcy, the Social Security Act of 1935 was passed and enacted in 1935.
  3. Congress promised the Social Security number would never be used for identification.
  4. Every State in the Union reformed their State governments into a direct Administrative corporate control systems between 1960 and 1972.
  5. The actual events of September 11, 2001 were covered up by Corp. U.S. and the official story is false.
  6. The Homeland Security Act fulfilled the 9th plank of the communist plan for taking over a great nation, which is, “Establish a national police force.” (there are only ten planks, the last of which is, “Inspire the people to rebel against the government.”)
  7. Though the forced use of the Social Security number is still against the law, dispatches from “Homeland Security” to businesses and the State governments require them to require the Social Security number as evidence of a person’s “legal presence”.
  8. The solution to all of this is still, the people must learn the law from their own research and experience and then they must apply it.
So, that is it; though at this time our records that contain the evidence you requested are buried in storage, the facts that are easily available to you and to anyone willing to look at the self-evident facts of life in today’s United States of America are clear:
    Liberty is the foundational Right upon which our Constitutional Republic was established. “Liberty” is the God given inherent right to take your private property and come and go as you please without interference from government.’
  1. The Constitutional Republic government of the United States of America:
    1. Is limited in its authority.
    2. The government gets all of its authority from the people that formed it:
      1. The people can lawfully pass no more authority to government than the authority they lawfully possess.
      2. The people do not individually possess the lawful authority to:
        • Outside of the domain of their privately owned Land, control any other person’s Liberty.
        • A private landowner’s domain is defined in their Title to their Land.
    3. Is limited by the 9th and 10th Articles of Amendment from creating authority that was not granted to it by the people.
    4. Controls the State governments formed under it through Article 1 § 10 of the Constitution for the United States of America.
  2. The State governments formed under the Union of States in said Constitutional Republic:
    1. Are limited in their respective authority.
    2. The State governments get all of their authority from the people that formed them.
      1. The States so formed respective constitutions in accord with their respective Enabling Acts
      2. The people can lawfully pass no more authority to government than the authority they lawfully possess.
      3. The people do not individually possess the lawful authority to:
        • Outside of the domain of their privately owned Land, control any other person’s Liberty.
        • A private landowner’s domain is defined in their Title to their Land.
        • Grant any authority limited from the States by either the State’s Enabling Act or Article 1 § 10 of the Constitution for the United States of America.
    3. The respective State governments are limited from creating authority that was not granted to them by the people.
Thus, outside of private contracts with the people, the national government and the State governments (as well as any agencies they may form) are forbidden by law from any authority the people do not possess to grant to them. Thus, any exercise of any authority that stands outside of the bounds of government limited both by lawful possibility and by our Constitutional Republic form of government remains unlawful and the only thing necessary to hold officers of government accountable to the laws of the country is the people must learn what they are and apply them.

Accordingly, it is wholly irrelevant whether Corp. U.S. was formed, or when, or by what power; given the fact that the people do not possess the authority to grant either our nation or its respective states the authority to compel: marriage licenses, driver’s licenses, licenses for the ownership or use of any of the people’s private property, license or limit the people’s ownership of private property, licenses to for people to exercise skills either personally or by private contract; etc.

Thus, if we assume the powers of governance are in place lawfully (either in their original jurisdiction or in any other capacity corporate or otherwise) and we assume that the controls that are executed over any party in the United States of America today are also lawful, then because no such authority can exist beyond what is shown in the facts stated above, the only authority by which any such things so limited from government can exist in the agencies of governance is private contract between the party so controlled and the agency of governance.

The bottom line, the only way available to any of us to deal either with enforcing the laws of our Land (even upon the agencies of governance) or enforcing the terms of such contractual relations is we must know both the Law and the terms of such contracts.

Thus, as we have stated many times, we do not care whether you understand the realities of Corp. U.S.’ existence. We simply care whether you are inspired to study and learn the law; so you can help the people of this great country save themselves from the eminent doom we will all suffer if we do not learn it and apply.

Thus, our final response to your inquiry into those facts is our standard answer: Team Law has presented the information it has to inspire people to self-educate. Thus, it is not our responsibility to provide you with case law, Acts of government or with any other information. We are here to inspire you to start researching. Though we have researched everything we have presented and we believe it all to be accurate as it is presented, we also recognize the inherent ability in the species for errors. Thus, if we have made any in our presentation, we apologize for that. Accordingly, we tell people not to relay on the information we or anyone else has presented here or anywhere. Instead, do your own research. If you have any questions (as you did) we will always do our best to provide reasonable answers to help you along your way [right up to the limits of our Charter—which limits us from providing beneficiary support to anyone that recognizes Team Law is worthy of support].

Again our purpose is to inspire people to study and learn—so, whether your study compels you to believe we are correct in what we provided, or not, we applaud you for your study and hope you continue your study until you become an active force in restoring our country through proper application of the law.

Either Corp. U.S. exists as we have shown and the people are today lawfully controlled by their private contracts with it or our government has run amuck and is unlawfully usurping authority made impossible to it by our constitutions. Either way, learning the law and applying it is the only viable remedy for saving our nation and ourselves, which is exactly Team Law’s point in all of this. It is also Team Law’s only purpose—we help people learn how to easily learn and apply the law.

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