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Liberty Forum interview

Postby Bayaba » Friday July 7th, 2006 11:04 am MDT

I just finished listening to all of the Liberty Forum interviews yesterday.

I woke up in the middle of the night thinking about several points made in interviews; that the military is still under original jurisdiction government and that Federal Reserve Notes are not money (which I have known for many years). This left me wondering about how the original jurisdiction government is paying the military and if the Corp. U. S. is guilty of fraud because it uses Federal Reserve denominated paper to "pay" the military.

Is there something I am missing here?

If there is fraud going on here, what court would have jurisdiction to hear the case since the Corp. U. S. is an agent of a foreign principal in relation to the original jurisdiction constitution making such fraud international in scope?

If this is the case, are the Joint Chiefs of Staff aware they, and the entire military, are being defrauded?

If the Joint Chiefs of Staff are aware of this, why would they back Corp. U. S. if a civil war broke out between Corp. U. S. and the people?

There are many other questions that this raises but the direction of those questions will depend on he answers to the issues raised above.

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Re: Liberty Forum interview

Postby Admin » Wednesday July 12th, 2006 7:16 pm MDT

:h: Bayaba:
First we will note that your comment alleged:
Bayaba wrote:that the military is still under original jurisdiction government
Which is not correct. What we said is, the military is the only body of government that has always remained in original jurisdiction from its constitutional creation to the present; however, that does not mean that they are “under original jurisdiction government” control. Though the military is definitely still an original jurisdiction government body, it is today under Corp. U.S. control because the Constitution requires it to operate under the exclusive civilian command of the Commander in Chief.

With that clarification we note: the answers to your questions here are discovered by following the Standard for Review presented in the Contracts, Trusts and the Corporation Sole article. The constitutional obligation the military remains under is they must carry out their orders under the Commander in Chief’s command. The Commander in Chief is neither a military officer nor a part of the military—the Commander in Chief is a civilian, and in times of war the Commander in Chief has the full authority to administratively execute any act the government can do in accord with the Constitution.

Since President Wilson was the rightful Commander in Chief over the military when he was reelected for a second term he remained the Commander in Chief when he was confirmed only into the Corp. U.S. President’s office because there was no required confirming vote of the original jurisdiction Senate (Congress) (required by the Constitution); therefore the seat of the Commander in Chief remained with Mr. Wilson while he continued to serve in the Corp. U.S. President’s capacity; and, the Commander in Chief capacity has been consecutively handed down from Mr. Wilson to the current Corp. U.S. President, George Bush. Thus, the military remains under the command of the Corp. U.S. President until the people once again seat a President of the United States of America in its original jurisdiction seat and he removes the emergency war power status that constitutionally compels the military to so follow Corp. U.S.

As to payments made and accepted, how the military chooses to dispatch payments to military personnel is not a constitutional matter; it is one of contract, which in this case is being operated in accord with Corp. U.S.’ agreement with the soldiers. Thus, again there is no fraud. In fact today, all soldiers are mustered in under the Social Security Administration trust agreement using the Social Security number; therefore, the soldiers so contracting are not people, rather they are Corp. U.S. agency trusts acting in accord with their contractual relations. Again, as the radio program pointed out, virtually all business relations today are made in accord with such agreements and within Corp. U.S. the form of corporate governance maintained is purely Communism.

When most people hear these things they are astonished to the point of disbelief; but, the facts are what they are; they are self proving to anyone that will simply follow the Standard for Review and learn the truth. The first response most people have when they learn the truth is they want out! The thing is if they jump out, they loose all capacity to control the beast. Thus, the true path to win our country back is to simple:
  1. Follow the Standard for Review to recognize the facts for what they are;
  2. Learn the applicable history and law;
  3. Start living in accord with the command of Genesis 1:26;
  4. Secure your Land ownership;
  5. Stop using the Social Security Administration created trusts (identified by their Social Security numbers) to build up assets for Corp. U.S.; and,
  6. Reseat our original jurisdiction governments’ officers in their seats.
    1. Timely reseat our original jurisdiction governments’ governors in their seats;
    2. Those governors can then reseat their State’s original jurisdiction national Senators;
    3. The Electors then need to hold a timely Electoral College election of the original jurisdiction President of the United States of America;
    4. That election can then be confirmed by a lawfully seated original jurisdiction Congress (Senate);
    5. Which confirmation will reseat our original jurisdiction President of the United States of America.
When that happens that President of the United States of America will have the capacity to:
  1. Call the debts owed to the original jurisdiction United States of America and to its People (which is more money than there is available on the planet);
  2. Which debts cannot be paid, therefore Corp. U.S. will return (in receivership) to the ownership and constitutional control of our original jurisdiction government (a Constitutional Republic);
  3. The business operations of Corp. U.S. that are rightfully governmental responsibilities will be returned to the government
  4. The balance of Corp. U.S. holdings and responsibilities will ultimately either be privatized where reasonable or under the constitutional control of the actual government be managed to eliminate any future need for any kind of taxation — in fact the people would likely begin to receive stipends from the excess capital available on a regular basis (the least of which would perpetually provide for the elderly and infirm better than the current Social Security program ever could have hoped for, without even inferring some kind of socialistic control of any kind.
We will have won our country back and we can expect the ordeal to stand a a witness and a warning against the dastardly acts that nearly destroyed our country such that such things will not soon threaten our peace in the future. Such actions of the People could even spark a light that would help most people turn their hearts back towards God so this millennium can begin in peace and prosperity.

So that is our prayer, and we invite all of the People to so join us with their support to that end.

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Postby Bayaba » Wednesday July 12th, 2006 7:29 pm MDT

Admin,
Thank you for clearing that up for me.

I did enjoy listening to the inverview and I noted that you may be a guest on the show again. If there have been plans made for future interviews, would you kindly let us know when to expect then?

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Postby Admin » Wednesday July 12th, 2006 10:22 pm MDT

:h: Tom:
We appreciate your input and your latest request. In response we point out that the information you are asking for was provided for the last 2 radio shows as soon as we were aware of them. We always post such things on our websites and on our Open Forum. We will continue to do the same whenever we are aware of such opportunities. The best way to keep updated is to regularly check our website’s Most Recent Changes page and read the announcements and messages on our forum system; the easiest way to do that is to make our home page your browser’s home page so you can stay updated. In other words, as with everything else, we do all we can and the rest is always up to you.

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Postby Bayaba » Sunday July 16th, 2006 1:24 pm MDT

Another link which would be helpful would be the one thru which we can purchase the CD copies of the interview. I have not been able to locate one myself yet.

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Postby Admin » Tuesday July 18th, 2006 4:04 pm MDT

:h: Tom:
We are in the process of editing the recordings and when that is done they will be available on CD through our store. Meanwhile they are available on our website on the Events page.

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